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BF #12 - Chris Webber

[editor's note, by Pradamaster]In memory of Chris Webber's retirement (thanks ,cuppettcj) and because The Big Lead reminded me, here's kdp922's writeup on Chris Webber from over the summer. Enjoy, again.

The game thread is coming, my apologies. It's been a busy day, and it doesn't help that thinking about last night's loss leaves me sick to my stomach. -PM

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(Part 9 of a 20 part series on the BF Top 20. Speaking of bullets, make sure to vote for the name of the daily link posts. Jackpitt is up next with Bernard King. Until then, enjoy kdp's write-up on Chris Webber. -Jake)

Look, I'm not going to pull any punches. I had stopped watching my Washington squad until Michael Jordan stepped out of the owner's box and into the ice pack room. The reason? Good ol' Abe and Wes, better known as flat A&W Root Beer, traded away the wrong guy and I was sick of it. It was crunchtime, as far as the direction of our once proud franchise was concerned. Well, at least that's what they tell me as I was still in my terrible two's when we went to back-to-back Finals.  All the rumors of excessive night life, affairs with Mary Jane and a general fear of `the new NBA' player meant good ol'`Bring Out the Cake' was starting to get nervous. The team had to be broken up. Never mind that we were on the precipice of potential greatness (or a potential technical called for not having enough timeouts, but I digress). We couldn't risk the bad publicity of being in the nation's capital and having our franchise player continuously giving us black eyes. I understand that, but Webber was my man from way back. I was a Fab Five fan, and when the Bullets traded for him on November 17th, 1994 to join up with Juwan Howard, you couldn't tell me a thing. Of course a month in, he dislocated his shoulder and missed 19 games, a precursor to a injury riddled career- but who knew that back then? He came back from that injury to score 3 triple doubles in 14 games and for the first time since the Jeff Malone era--this franchise had hope. Webber opted out of surgery on the shoulder hoping rest and rehabilitation would solve the problem. Sound plan. Uh huh.

The following season, things looked to be rounding into shape... except for Webber's shoulder. We had drafted UNC stud Rasheed Wallace to form one of the most dynamic front courts ever assembled. Don't believe me? Check out this highlight video...


Before the season, Webber signed a 6-year $58.5 million contract that was supposed to keep Webber in town through the remainder of his prime. Of course, 8 days after signing the contract he re-injured the shoulder in a preseason game. Oh, it's nothing... until he completely dislocated it four days later. He would miss the first portion of the season and not return until after Thanksgiving. He lasted until Christmas (I'm not Jewish, but am I allowed to say `Oy!'?)  One month after that, he underwent season ending surgery, as the Bullets finished 39-43--10th place in the east and a marked improvement to the 21 wins from the previous season. We were turning the corner and all of us could see it. We did this only having C-Webb for 15 games.  The crowning achievement to me?? The Bullets were UNSTOPPABLE in NBA Live. Ask any of my boys- they will tell you the cold hard truth of my domination. There was no doubt the Bullets were destined for greatness. Gheorghe and Calbert  averaged 15 ppg each. Think about that for a minute.

You ever go through a rough stretch in your life, finally reach a silver lining and think things have turned the corner only to lead to a brick wall? That's what the next two seasons were for me. In 1996, a healthy Webber was being integrated back into the team. Under Kim Lynam (yes, I said Kim) we started off 22-24 and he was replaced by Bernie Bickerstaff. We went on a tear, with Webber leading the team in points (20.1) rebounding (10.3) and blocks (1.9) as he made his very first All Star appearance. They had traded Rasheed Wallace to Portland for Rod Strickland (the most underrated Bullets player ever) in a move that gets lumped into the bad trades Washington has made, even though Strickland's game was what transformed us into real playoff contenders.  The Bulltets were moving downtown next season with a new name of the Wizards (remember how horrible we thought the name was?) They won the final four games of the season, including a last game victory over Cleveland to edge them out for the eighth playoff spot. The drought was over! We did it! The first round matchup against the Bulls was just icing on the cake. Though swept, each game went down to the stretch in a way no 8th seed is supposed to compete with Air (not Eddie) Jordan in his prime. To those watching, the only thing missing was the big game experience to know how to finish an opponent off. Even Jordan said after the series how tough it was and that he expected the Washington franchise to be title contenders for years to come.

Hello brick wall, not nice to meet you. Coming off the inspiring showing in the playoffs, Webber was named to the US World Championship team prior to the 97-98 season. Enjoying another standout season, Webber was all set to be named to a second consecutive all-star team when Jan 20th happened. Punishment Guaranteed. That's what we call PG Police and Chris Webber can attest to that. That night, stopped for a traffic violation, Webber was maced and assaulted by the police that claimed he had marijuana in his car. Of course, they say he was resisting arrest, but no charge came of that claim. This was really the first `incident' Webber had as a Wizard that reached the public's eyesight. There were many other indicators that winter that said otherwise to the people of the city. Webber was steadily getting the `party guy' reputation (not that there's anything wrong with that) and was often seen late into the night frequenting the famous Washington DC club scenes. One of my former flings was a high-level basketball groupie and she used to recount some of the hottub stories of those years... let's just say that PG Police could have possibly stepped in on more then just that traffic citation. Transgressions transgressions transgressions. Late in the season as the Bullets were gearing up for another playoff run, as Rod Strickland caught the injury bug--Webber was really starting to develop into one of the top 3 or 4 power forwards in the league. Then the party happened. On April 6th,  Montgomery County police announced they were investigating charges of sexual assault by Webber and Howard related to a party at Howard's home. Nothing came of the charges, and Juwan even later won a lawsuit against the woman, but the damage was done. The team was changing it's name from the Bullets to the Wizards, moving into a new arena and didn't want to have the negative press associated with the franchise. Understandable--but they traded a young up and coming loq post force  for a washed up shooting guard that had never won anything in his life. This made sense? My favorite writer Bill Simmons constantly writes that there are only 7-8 quality GMs in basketball--I would have paid good money to watch him chronicle our team during these years. Washington traded away my high school hero- and there was no more joy in Mudville folks. I followed Webber to Sactown and spent many nights watching the late game of the TNT double headers... until Jordan touched down.

Yo! This represents the view of the user who wrote the FanPost, and not the entire Bullets Forever community. We're a place of many opinions, not just one.

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I can't get past it
There's no question that the Webber-for-Richmond trade was a horrible move that crippled the Washington franchise.

There's no question that in his prime, Webber played a sublime game of basketball -- powerful, skillful, creative and joyful (and winning)

But it also seems evident to me that Webber grossly underachieved with the Bullets, and the circumstances of his time here suggest that the reason was a lack of dedication. He partied all the time. He got high before practice. And we never compiled more than 44 wins in a season. I wish he had blossomed into such a great player here, but it's possible that he never would have without the change of scenery (and let's face it, there are far fewer distractions in Sactown). I wish we would have gotten something better than Mitch Richmond's corpse for him, but at the time, I wasn't especially sorry to see him go.

For me, the other big mystery of Webber's career is his free throw shooting. He is unquestionably a solid outside shooter, and he was even dating back to his days at Michigan. But he shot .502 from the line in his first year in DC, never got to 60% while he was here, then dropped to .454 his first year in Sacramento. Something clicked the following year, though, and he improved the following year to 75%, and even clocked in at 80% one year. WTF?

"Now, obviously individual production does not unilaterally equal better team production, but there's a high level of causation."

by Vanilla Gorilla on Sep 13, 2007 1:13 PM EDT   0 recs

in hindsight
for as good as a player as he was he always left a trail of bad. It seemed he would start off as the "perfect" person/player and then it would go down hill. I loved those Michigan teams he was on and what became of that. a lot of NCAA violations. (When i was in college @ Pitt my roomates' sister played Field Hockey at Michigan and the stories she told about the Fab 5 and what they got away with were pretty spectacular.)

Then in Golden State he started off good but wore out his welcome just as he would in DC, Sactown & Philly. Anyone sense a trend?

I will always remember the one time I met him at a Bullets Autograph session at the old Wild World Theme Park in Landover. He had a huge smile for everyone that he signed for and genuinely seemed to enjoy meeting the season ticket holders.

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by jackpitt on Sep 13, 2007 1:49 PM EDT   0 recs

another thought
god that bullets road red uni looks good!!!
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by jackpitt on Sep 13, 2007 4:54 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

More Hindsight
I think Webber is sort of like Phil Mickelson. They've got all of the shots and phenomenal skill, but seem to get bored with doing things the easy or conventional way. Webber came out of college as an inside player with great hands. But each year as a pro, he went more and more to his outside shot. He was a great passer and fabulous on the break but I never trusted him during crunch time. My memory is that he always tried to take the ball one on one which was definitely not his strength.
Its hard to believe that Mitch Richmond is the best the Wizards could get for him. For some reason, they were in a major hurry to trade him even though there was no need for it. Everyone knew the lockout was coming so that the season would be delayed. They could have easily waited. Webber often annoyed me but Richmond NEVER did anything good in a Wizards uniform.
I agree about the red uniforms. They look good.

by hotplate on Sep 13, 2007 5:08 PM EDT   0 recs

Yeah but
I don't think C-Webb could ever choke as bad as Phil did in the U.S. Open.  He'd have to miss 3 wide-open layups in a row or something.  Actually, that wouldn't shock me.
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by JakeTheSnake on Sep 13, 2007 11:27 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Or call a timeout
that he didn't have!

by hotplate on Sep 14, 2007 7:36 AM EDT   0 recs

Oh snap!
Completely forgot about that (how I did I'll never know) but when you add that on top of the blatant travel at the start of the play, yeah that's just about as bad.
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by JakeTheSnake on Sep 14, 2007 8:12 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

and...
What was amazing is that Webber made the timeout gaffe in college AND the pros.  I believe it was his first season with the Bullets and in almost the same crunchtime, end of game situation. I remember thinking, you've got to be kidding me, AGAIN?

Yeah, as much as I think his talent was sublime to watch, the thing I remember most was he frustrated me with his shot selection (jacking up threes at terrible times) and his free throw shooting.  I would say if you had to make a comparison, Webber was like Roger Clemens when the Red Sox let him go.  For some reason, Clemens coasted on his talent at the end in Boston and would have never put together more Cy Young seasons had he not been spurned by the Sox and signed with Toronto.  Washington should have gotten better value in return but Webber would have never gotten his act together here.

by LoDawg31 on Sep 14, 2007 11:58 AM EDT   0 recs

Missed greatness (Webber, not this post)
For me too, kdp, that Webber-Howard-Wallace triumverate was when I really got into the Wizards--although I did follow C-Webb after he got dealt to Sactown, out of sentimentality.

And, at this point, it looks like his NBA career is effictively finished--he's got one leg, no one's signed him, and he wants to be a starter.  Although I feel like the end was really back in May '04--when Webber (coming back from microfracture) missed a game-tying three that rattled out in Game 7 of the WC finals vs. the T-Wolves.  Watching then, you just knew that he was done in Sactown, knew that he'd never make it back again.

Clemens at least won a few Cys in Boston...Webber was an All-Star, although could have been so much more.  Can you imagine if he had the work ethic of a Karl Malone or KG?  It took him nearly six years to really get it together...it'll be a career of should'ves instead of dids.

by crucifictorious on Sep 17, 2007 1:18 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

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